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Wet dreams following focus on Dan Tian

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  • This topic has 6 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated 12 years, 9 months ago by Nick.
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  • January 22, 2013 at 3:51 am #40098

    Nick

    Hi All,

    Newby here, would like some advice from master please about how to conserve chi.
    After years of meditation, yoga and running orbits, still experiencing wet dreams whilst concentrating on Dan tien during the day; following my Taiji teacher’s advice to preserve my energy that is leaking from my hands mainly.
    In books, most Daoist masters from oriental lineage view wet dreams as something to eradicate.

    Thanks

    January 23, 2013 at 9:09 pm #40099

    Steven

    There are no masters here,
    only people sharing experiences.

    Dreams typically allow you to explore and
    express that which is not expressed in waking life.

    Wet dreams are a combination of the simple biological
    desire to release aging prostate fluid, so the body
    can fill the area with fresh fluid . . . combined
    with sexual imagery caused (typically) by unfulfilled
    sexual desire in waking life–given to you to help
    stimulate the physical release.

    It is likely that you are trying to suppress your
    sexual desire, rather than accept it and come into
    harmony with it.

    To stop the wet dreams, find a partner to
    have sex with (or simply masturbate by yourself)
    bringing yourself to orgasm. Fulfill the sexual desire
    and biological desire in waking life, and your body/psyche
    won’t feel the need to do it when you sleep.

    The question of whether or not you want to explore
    separating orgasm from ejaculation, and having
    ejaculation-free orgasms, is another question altogether.
    If this is something you are interested in,
    the Healing Love course (part of the Healing Tao
    coursework) presents one such method. Some
    people use the material from that course to
    stop qi loss from ejaculation.

    In different coursework–Lesser Kan and Li (which
    has a few prerequisites)– you can deeper explore
    unfulfilled sexual desire and help gain
    completion on that end through the practices
    and meditations from that coursework.

    If you choose to explore a few of these choices,
    it is important that you only explore them after
    doing the prerequisite trainings . . . which in
    this coursework is Qigong Fundamentals
    (for Lesser Kan&Li, you also need the Fusion 1-3
    series). Jumping ahead without the prerequisite
    training will yield one of two results:
    1. Training doesn’t work
    2. Serious negative health consequences result
    from the training.
    Thus, make sure to do the prerequisites, starting
    with Qigong Fundamentals.

    For optimal results, follow M. Winn’s recommended
    sequence listed on the main page.

    S

    January 24, 2013 at 1:54 pm #40101

    Nick

    Thanks for the advice.
    I get wet dreams randomly, even after a full evening of orgasmic pleasure with a new partner…

    January 24, 2013 at 5:26 pm #40103

    Steven

    If you are having wet dreams, but it is not due to
    sexual abstinence or intentionally trying to avoid
    ejaculation in your waking life, then this speaks
    to a different issue I feel.

    My feeling would either be unresolved
    psycho-sexual issues (Lesser Kan & Li course
    is one way to explore this), or possibly
    simply liver hyperactivity.

    In the latter case, you could give
    “Bupleurum and Dragon Bone” herbal formulation
    (from Dragon Herbs, http://www.dragonherbs.com) a try.
    I know some that have told me that that has
    helped them with such issues. In any case,
    you could look into it.

    S

    January 26, 2013 at 4:27 am #40105

    Nick

    Hi Steve, I work as a western pharmacist and an acupuncturist but have no knowledge of chinese pharmacopoeia. Is there literature published on clinical trials available on the net for “bupleurum and dragon bone” please as I cannot find it?

    January 26, 2013 at 10:06 am #40107

    Steven

    I don’t know anything about clinical trials,
    but it is considered a “classical” Chinese
    herbal formulation, one that has been
    around for a while historically in China
    and Japan.

    Note: I am not an herbalist.
    However, “Bupleurum and Dragon Bone”
    is a formulation that I take myself.
    So consequently I can vouch for the
    fact that it is a mild formulation.
    It is something one could reasonably
    try “over the counter”, which is
    what I did when I started taking it
    a few years ago.

    I personally have never had a problem
    with wet dreams, and don’t take it for
    that reason, but others who have had
    problems with wet dreams have told me
    anecdotal info about it helping them
    with this. So you could try it and
    see if it helps. At the very least,
    I wouldn’t hurt to look into.
    —————-
    From the Dragon Herbs catalog:
    “Bupleurum and Dragon Bone Combination is
    one of the primary anti-stress formulations
    used in Chinese herbalism. It is a superb
    mood stabilizer. It is primarily listed as
    a Shen stabilizer and as a Liver tonic. It
    is famous for its ability to help stabilize
    addictive/compulsive behavior and is widely
    used in the withdrawal from the addiction to
    smoking, drinking, and to a large variety of
    addictive drugs by both lessening the cravings
    for the drug and by reducing the common
    withdrawal symptoms. As an anti-compulsive
    agent, this formulation can be used to control
    one’s weight by helping to regulate the
    appetite. It is said to improve will power,
    strengthen the mind, reduce anxiety, frustration,
    and anger. It is widely used in Japan for
    chronic heart palpitations. It has a long
    tradition as a tonic which aids meditation.
    The classic formula contains Rhubarb, which is
    laxative. In this version, Rhubarb has been
    replaced by another Shen stabiizing herb,
    Uncaria, eliminating the laxative effect and
    strengthening the calming effect.

    Traditional functions: Regulating the Liver,
    calming the nerves, stabilizing Shen, supporting
    healthy energy, and eliminating wind and evil.

    Who can use this formula: Strong people who
    are feeling the effects of excessive stress,
    nervousness, and tension. It is known
    as the “lawyer’s formula” in Japan.

    Ingredients: Bupleurum, Uncaria, Dragon Bone,
    Scute, Oyster Shell, Cinnamon Twig, Poria,
    Pinellia Prepared, Fresh Ginger, Codonopsis,
    Red Jujube Date
    ————————

    January 26, 2013 at 12:12 pm #40109

    Nick

    Thanks Steve

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