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The Case for God by Karen Armstrong (good book review)

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  • October 3, 2009 at 5:59 pm #32306

    Michael Winn

    THE CASE FOR GOD
    By Karen Armstrong
    406 pp. Alfred A. Knopf. $27.95
    http://bit.ly/2fdbMl

    …………..

    The Bush era was a difficult time for liberal religion in America. The
    events of 9/11 were not exactly an advertisement for the compatibility of
    faith and reason, faith and modernity, or faith and left-of-center politics.
    Nor was the domestic culture war that blazed up in their wake, which lent a
    “with us or against us” quality to nearly every God-related controversy. For
    many liberals, the only choices seemed to be secularism or fundamentalism,
    the new atheism or the old-time religion, Richard Dawkins or George W. Bush.

    But now the wheel has turned, and liberal believers can breathe easier. Bush
    has retired to Texas, and his successor in the White House is the very model
    of a modern liberal Christian. Religious conservatism seems diminished and
    dispirited. The polarizing issues of the moment are health care and
    deficits, not abstinence education or intelligent design. And the new
    atheists seem to have temporarily run out of ways to call believers stupid.

    The time, in other words, is ripe for a book like “The Case for God,” which
    wraps a rebuke to the more militant sort of atheism in an engaging survey of
    Western religious thought. Karen Armstrong, a former nun turned prolific
    popular historian, wants to rescue the idea of God from its cultured
    despisers and its more literal-minded adherents alike. To that end, she
    doesn’t just argue that her preferred approach to religion — which
    emphasizes the pursuit of an unknowable Deity, rather than the quest for
    theological correctness — is compatible with a liberal, scientific,
    technologically advanced society. She argues that it’s actually truer to the
    ancient traditions of Judaism, Islam and (especially) Christianity than is
    much of what currently passes for “conservative” religion. And the neglect
    of these traditions, she suggests, is “one of the reasons why so many
    Western people find the concept of God so troublesome today.”

    Both modern believers and modern atheists, Armstrong contends, have come to
    understand religion primarily as a set of propositions to be assented to, or
    a catalog of specific facts about the nature of God, the world and human
    life. But this approach to piety would be foreign to many premodern
    religious thinkers, including the greatest minds of the Christian past, from
    the early Fathers of the Church to medieval eminences like Thomas Aquinas.

    These and other thinkers, she writes, understood faith primarily as a
    practice, rather than as a system — not as “something that people thought
    but something they did.” Their God was not a being to be defined or a
    proposition to be tested, but an ultimate reality to be approached through
    myth, ritual and “apophatic” theology, which practices “a deliberate and
    principled reticence about God and/or the sacred” and emphasizes what we
    can’t know about the divine. And their religion was a set of skills, rather
    than a list of unalterable teachings — a “knack,” as the Taoists have it,
    for navigating the mysteries of human existence.

    It’s a knack, Armstrong argues, that the Christian West has largely lost,
    and the rise of modern science is to blame. Not because science and religion
    are unalterably opposed, but because religious thinkers succumbed to a fatal
    case of science envy.

    Instead of providing the usual portrait of empiricism triumphing over
    superstition, Armstrong depicts an extended seduction in which believers
    were persuaded to embrace the “natural theology” of Isaac Newton and William
    Paley, which seemed to provide scientific warrant for a belief in a creator
    God. Convinced that “the natural laws that scientists had discovered in the
    universe were tangible demonstrations of God’s providential care,” Western
    Christians abandoned the apophatic, mythic approach to faith in favor of a
    pseudo scientific rigor — and then had nowhere to turn when Darwin’s theory
    of evolution arrived on the scene.

    An Aquinas or an Augustine would have been unfazed by the idea of evolution.
    But their modern successors had convinced themselves that religious truth
    was a literal, all-or-nothing affair, in which doctrines were the equivalent
    of scientific precepts, and sacred texts needed to coincide exactly with the
    natural sciences. The resulting crisis produced the confusions of our own
    day, in which biblical literalists labor to reconcile the words of Genesis
    with the existence of the dinosaurs, while atheists ridicule Scripture for
    its failure to resemble a science textbook.

    To escape this pointless debate, Armstrong counsels atheists to recognize
    that theism isn’t a rival scientific theory, and that it is “no use
    magisterially weighing up the teachings of religion to judge their truth or
    falsehood before embarking on a religious way of life. You will discover
    their truth — or lack of it — only if you translate these doctrines into
    ritual or ethical action.” Believers, meanwhile, are urged to recover the
    wisdom of their forebears, who understood that “revealed truth was symbolic,
    that Scripture could not be interpreted literally” and that “revelation was
    not an event that had happened once in the distant past but was an ongoing,
    creative process that required human ingenuity.”

    This is an eloquent case for the ancient roots of the liberal approach to
    faith, and my summary does not do justice to its subtleties. But it deserves
    to be heavily qualified. Armstrong concedes that the religious story she’s
    telling highlights only a particular trend within monotheistic faith. The
    casual reader, however, would be forgiven for thinking that the leading
    lights of premodern Christianity were essentially liberal Episcopalians
    avant la lettre.

    In reality, these Christian sages were fiercely dogmatic by any modern
    standard. They were not fundamentalists, reading every line of Scripture
    literally, and they were, as Armstrong says, “inventive, fearless and
    confident in their interpretation of faith.” But their inventiveness was
    grounded in shared doctrines and constrained by shared assumptions. Their
    theology was reticent in its claims about the ultimate nature of God but
    very specific about how God had revealed himself on earth. It’s true that
    Augustine, for instance, did not interpret the early books of Genesis
    literally. But he certainly endorsed a literal reading of Jesus’
    resurrection — and he wouldn’t have been much of a Christian theologian if
    he hadn’t.

    Which is to say that it’s considerably more difficult than Armstrong allows
    to separate thought from action, teaching from conduct, and dogma from
    practice in religious history. The dogmas tend to sustain the practices, and
    vice versa. It’s possible to gain some sort of “knack” for a religion
    without believing that all its dogmas are literally true: a spiritually
    inclined person can no doubt draw nourishment from the Roman Catholic Mass
    without believing that the Eucharist literally becomes the body and blood of
    Christ. But without the doctrine of transubstantiation, the Mass would not
    exist to provide that nourishment. Not every churchgoer will share Flannery
    O’Connor’s opinion that if the Eucharist is “a symbol, to hell with it.” But
    the Catholic faith has endured for 2,000 years because of Flannery
    O’Connors, not Karen Armstrongs.

    This explains why liberal religion tends to be parasitic on more dogmatic
    forms of faith, which create and sustain the practices that the liberal
    believer picks and chooses from, reads symbolically and reinterprets for a
    more enlightened age. Such spiritual dilettant ism has its charms, but it
    lacks the sturdy appeal of Western monotheism, which has always offered not
    only myth and ritual and symbolism (the pagans had those bases covered), but
    also scandalously literal claims — that the Jews really are God’s chosen
    people; that Christ really did rise from the dead; and that however much the
    author of the universe may surpass our understanding, we can live in hope
    that he loves the world enough to save it, and us, from the annihilating
    power of death.

    Such literalism can be taken too far, and “The Case for God” argues,
    convincingly, that it needs to coexist with more mythic, mystic and
    philosophical forms of faith. Most people, though, are not mystics and
    philosophers, and they are hungry for myths that are not only resonant but
    true. Apophatic religion may be the most rigorous way to go in search of an
    elusive God. But for most believers, it will remain a poor substitute for
    the idea that God has come in search of us.

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